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	<title>Comments on: Obama: You Only Need to Count on Your Family and Your God if Your Government Doesn&#8217;t Make You Rich or at Least Richer; UPDATED</title>
	<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2008/04/12/obama-you-only-need-to-count-on-your-family-and-your-god-if-your-government-doesnt-make-you-rich-or-at-least-richer/</link>
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		<title>by: Neo</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2008/04/12/obama-you-only-need-to-count-on-your-family-and-your-god-if-your-government-doesnt-make-you-rich-or-at-least-richer/#comment-293958</link>
		<pubDate>Tue, 15 Apr 2008 16:30:01 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The best part about hearing "new proposals" from Congress-persons in the majority party every Presidential election cycle is asking the obvious question ..

&lt;b&gt;If these folks are so f.ing smart, why the &lt;i&gt;H E double hockey sticks&lt;/i&gt; haven't they put their proposals on the docket already ? .. why do we have to wait until they get elected President ?&lt;/b&gt;  &lt;i&gt;Doesn't out bitterness and frustration deserve action today, not some 9 months from now ?  If their ideas are so great, doesn't America deserve them today ?&lt;/i&gt;

I can look into thomas.loc.gov and see that Obama hasn't submitted bills to solve these problems.  Shoot .. he and Hiliary are in the majority party of both chambers.  So why the wait ?

Do they think that we are that dense ?
Yes, yes they do .. or perhaps Obama hasn't found the in basket yet.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The best part about hearing &#8220;new proposals&#8221; from Congress-persons in the majority party every Presidential election cycle is asking the obvious question ..</p>
<p><b>If these folks are so f.ing smart, why the <i>H E double hockey sticks</i> haven&#8217;t they put their proposals on the docket already ? .. why do we have to wait until they get elected President ?</b>  <i>Doesn&#8217;t out bitterness and frustration deserve action today, not some 9 months from now ?  If their ideas are so great, doesn&#8217;t America deserve them today ?</i></p>
<p>I can look into thomas.loc.gov and see that Obama hasn&#8217;t submitted bills to solve these problems.  Shoot .. he and Hiliary are in the majority party of both chambers.  So why the wait ?</p>
<p>Do they think that we are that dense ?<br />
Yes, yes they do .. or perhaps Obama hasn&#8217;t found the in basket yet.
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		<title>by: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2008/04/12/obama-you-only-need-to-count-on-your-family-and-your-god-if-your-government-doesnt-make-you-rich-or-at-least-richer/#comment-291983</link>
		<pubDate>Mon, 14 Apr 2008 14:57:14 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So, the government is supposed to give us the kind of life that doesn't cultivate bitterness, but the government invented AIDS (isn't that what Wright said?) and I heard yesterday that a celebrity-whose-name-I've-forgotten said that the government invented hip-hop gangsta rap as a way to get blacks to kill each other so we'd never have a black president.

You can't have it both ways. Does having a monster government in control of your life save you from bitterness, or does it manipulate, oppress and attempt murder?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So, the government is supposed to give us the kind of life that doesn&#8217;t cultivate bitterness, but the government invented AIDS (isn&#8217;t that what Wright said?) and I heard yesterday that a celebrity-whose-name-I&#8217;ve-forgotten said that the government invented hip-hop gangsta rap as a way to get blacks to kill each other so we&#8217;d never have a black president.</p>
<p>You can&#8217;t have it both ways. Does having a monster government in control of your life save you from bitterness, or does it manipulate, oppress and attempt murder?
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		<title>by: Alfred J. Lemire</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2008/04/12/obama-you-only-need-to-count-on-your-family-and-your-god-if-your-government-doesnt-make-you-rich-or-at-least-richer/#comment-289562</link>
		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 04:43:03 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>The Obama argument about voting according to one's alleged economic class and position appears similar to an argument that Thomas Frank made in "What's the Matter With Kansas"? Oddly, they do not seem to notice that, to be consistent, they should argue against the politics of such as George Soros, and, presumably, the audience that Obama addressed in or near San Francisco a week ago. One can answer that Mr. Soros has many concerns that have nothing to do with his taxes or whatever government will do with his wealth, like expropriate it; but, as you correctly point out, many people of limited means have other concerns about society's rule-making that have nothing to do with their economic situation and some question, as I do, whether the left's policies will help them economically. 

Obama is a leftist; whatever brains he carried with him to law school got fried somewhere as he adopted a leftist political stance. One also recalls how Fidel Castro got a wet kiss from at least one and possibly more New York Times staffers before he became El Lider Maximo. History does not repeat exactly, but what’s happening now appears close enough to the politics of the recent past.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>The Obama argument about voting according to one&#8217;s alleged economic class and position appears similar to an argument that Thomas Frank made in &#8220;What&#8217;s the Matter With Kansas&#8221;? Oddly, they do not seem to notice that, to be consistent, they should argue against the politics of such as George Soros, and, presumably, the audience that Obama addressed in or near San Francisco a week ago. One can answer that Mr. Soros has many concerns that have nothing to do with his taxes or whatever government will do with his wealth, like expropriate it; but, as you correctly point out, many people of limited means have other concerns about society&#8217;s rule-making that have nothing to do with their economic situation and some question, as I do, whether the left&#8217;s policies will help them economically. </p>
<p>Obama is a leftist; whatever brains he carried with him to law school got fried somewhere as he adopted a leftist political stance. One also recalls how Fidel Castro got a wet kiss from at least one and possibly more New York Times staffers before he became El Lider Maximo. History does not repeat exactly, but what’s happening now appears close enough to the politics of the recent past.
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		<title>by: MagicalPat</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 03:16:53 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>So let me make sure I've got this correct. If I just vote for his Highness, I can then dump my family, my church, and my guns and I will never be bitter again nor will I ask for our immigration laws to be enforced. As a bonus, I can support free trade again. I think; I can never tell with this guy if I'm supposed to be for it or against it. If he would only tell me what to do.........

He doesn't just want our votes, he wants us to think like him. In fact, he cannot understand why anyone would think any differently.

Kind of makes him an asshole..</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>So let me make sure I&#8217;ve got this correct. If I just vote for his Highness, I can then dump my family, my church, and my guns and I will never be bitter again nor will I ask for our immigration laws to be enforced. As a bonus, I can support free trade again. I think; I can never tell with this guy if I&#8217;m supposed to be for it or against it. If he would only tell me what to do&#8230;&#8230;&#8230;</p>
<p>He doesn&#8217;t just want our votes, he wants us to think like him. In fact, he cannot understand why anyone would think any differently.</p>
<p>Kind of makes him an asshole..
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		<title>by: mytralman</title>
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		<pubDate>Sun, 13 Apr 2008 00:12:38 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>I grew up in small town Colorado. My mother was an FDR democrat all of her life, as were her 4 sisters. Her brother, a rancher, loved guns and listened to Rush all day long. He taught B17 machine gunners in WW2. I, his nephew, carried a gun on the prairie when I was 10. My uncle died alone and dead broke, surrounded by his dogs. He never voted for a Democrat after Kennedy. My mother voted  Republican only once, when her son(my brother), Harvard, Harvard Law, Cambridge U in England, went to work for a Republican administration in the OMB. What is the point? Obama is a liberal who sees people like they are automatons, following some Marxist DNA. Actually they are more complicated. I hope Mr Obama loses big time in November.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I grew up in small town Colorado. My mother was an FDR democrat all of her life, as were her 4 sisters. Her brother, a rancher, loved guns and listened to Rush all day long. He taught B17 machine gunners in WW2. I, his nephew, carried a gun on the prairie when I was 10. My uncle died alone and dead broke, surrounded by his dogs. He never voted for a Democrat after Kennedy. My mother voted  Republican only once, when her son(my brother), Harvard, Harvard Law, Cambridge U in England, went to work for a Republican administration in the OMB. What is the point? Obama is a liberal who sees people like they are automatons, following some Marxist DNA. Actually they are more complicated. I hope Mr Obama loses big time in November.
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		<title>by: fouse, gary c</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:58:05 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Aside from Jeremiah Wright, there is another associate of Barack Obama that the candidate needs to explain if he hopes to become president. His name is William Ayers, and he is a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. His wife is Bernadine Dohrn, who teaches at Northwestern University. Both have been rather closely associated with Obama in recent years. Why should this be of concern? Both Ayers and Dohrn were members of the infamous Weather Underground (America's first home-grown terrorist association) during the 1960s and 1980s.

The Weather Underground was more than just a dissident group during the Viet Nam era. They participated in a wave of violence and bombings during that era. In March of 1970, Ayres, a member of the group, went underground after a bomb accidentally exploded in Greenwich Village (3-6-70), killing three Weather Underground members, including Ayer's then-girlfriend. Ayers spent his years underground carrying out bombings of various locations including the Capitol Building, the Pentagon and the New York PD Hqs. As a fugitive, he had two children with Dohrn, who later became his wife. In 1981, they turned themselves in. Charges against Ayers were dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct during the years-long search for the fugitive.

What is illuminating-and needs to be remembered-is that in September 2001, Ayres told the New York Times, "I don't regret setting bombs. I feel we didn't do enough". 

So Ayres and Dohrn went on to careers in academia. They also developed a relationship with Barack Obama as they continued their left-wing activism-albeit within the legal system. Obama reportedly first met Ayres and Dohrn in 1995, when he was taken to their home to seek their support for his first run for political office in the state senate. 

Ayers has been since 1999 a board member of the Woods Fund of Chicago, a left-wing foundation that sponsors activist community organizing in Chicago. Barack Obama also served on that board from 1999-2002. It should be noted that in 2001, the Woods Fund gave a $40,000 grant to the Arab-American Action Network, followed by a $35,000 grant in 2002. This organization is headed by Mona Khalidi, the wife of Columbia University Professor, Rashid Khalidi. This man is an activist who supports terror against Israel and has worked for the PLO-including during the years when that organization was killing Americans. In 2005, Obama, Ayers and Dohrn gave testimonials at a farewell dinner for Khalidi.

In addition, Obama and Ayres have served on panels together over the years including an activist conference in Chicago April 19-20 of 2002. 

This is not to suggest that Ayres and Dohrn are still involved in illegal activities, though it may be assumed that Ayres is unrepentent for his past. It might also be argued that one questionable association with someone who was involved in terroristic activity decades ago could be disregarded. The problem is that these questionable associations are starting to pile up. First Jeremiah Wright, then Ayers and Khalidi. Guilt by association? Yes, but it is cause for genuine concern.

As usual, the mainstream media is ignoring this story. But don't the American people have the right to at least be aware and consider this when they vote?

gary fouse
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		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Aside from Jeremiah Wright, there is another associate of Barack Obama that the candidate needs to explain if he hopes to become president. His name is William Ayers, and he is a Distinguished Professor of Education at the University of Illinois at Chicago. His wife is Bernadine Dohrn, who teaches at Northwestern University. Both have been rather closely associated with Obama in recent years. Why should this be of concern? Both Ayers and Dohrn were members of the infamous Weather Underground (America&#8217;s first home-grown terrorist association) during the 1960s and 1980s.</p>
<p>The Weather Underground was more than just a dissident group during the Viet Nam era. They participated in a wave of violence and bombings during that era. In March of 1970, Ayres, a member of the group, went underground after a bomb accidentally exploded in Greenwich Village (3-6-70), killing three Weather Underground members, including Ayer&#8217;s then-girlfriend. Ayers spent his years underground carrying out bombings of various locations including the Capitol Building, the Pentagon and the New York PD Hqs. As a fugitive, he had two children with Dohrn, who later became his wife. In 1981, they turned themselves in. Charges against Ayers were dropped due to prosecutorial misconduct during the years-long search for the fugitive.</p>
<p>What is illuminating-and needs to be remembered-is that in September 2001, Ayres told the New York Times, &#8220;I don&#8217;t regret setting bombs. I feel we didn&#8217;t do enough&#8221;. </p>
<p>So Ayres and Dohrn went on to careers in academia. They also developed a relationship with Barack Obama as they continued their left-wing activism-albeit within the legal system. Obama reportedly first met Ayres and Dohrn in 1995, when he was taken to their home to seek their support for his first run for political office in the state senate. </p>
<p>Ayers has been since 1999 a board member of the Woods Fund of Chicago, a left-wing foundation that sponsors activist community organizing in Chicago. Barack Obama also served on that board from 1999-2002. It should be noted that in 2001, the Woods Fund gave a $40,000 grant to the Arab-American Action Network, followed by a $35,000 grant in 2002. This organization is headed by Mona Khalidi, the wife of Columbia University Professor, Rashid Khalidi. This man is an activist who supports terror against Israel and has worked for the PLO-including during the years when that organization was killing Americans. In 2005, Obama, Ayers and Dohrn gave testimonials at a farewell dinner for Khalidi.</p>
<p>In addition, Obama and Ayres have served on panels together over the years including an activist conference in Chicago April 19-20 of 2002. </p>
<p>This is not to suggest that Ayres and Dohrn are still involved in illegal activities, though it may be assumed that Ayres is unrepentent for his past. It might also be argued that one questionable association with someone who was involved in terroristic activity decades ago could be disregarded. The problem is that these questionable associations are starting to pile up. First Jeremiah Wright, then Ayers and Khalidi. Guilt by association? Yes, but it is cause for genuine concern.</p>
<p>As usual, the mainstream media is ignoring this story. But don&#8217;t the American people have the right to at least be aware and consider this when they vote?</p>
<p>gary fouse<br />
fousesquawk
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		<title>by: Sandy C.</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:57:46 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Obama and his kin is finished in this here election. I bin to the field to do my shootin practice.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Obama and his kin is finished in this here election. I bin to the field to do my shootin practice.
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		<title>by: Scrapiron</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:55:08 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Now Mrs Peel, don't forget to take your bible. Hussein is watching you.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Now Mrs Peel, don&#8217;t forget to take your bible. Hussein is watching you.
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		<title>by: Mrs. Peel</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 23:38:31 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>Great post.  You said what I was thinking better than I could.

Being from Texas, I'm quite familiar with stereotypes about rural areas (even though I am actually from a large city).  I've seen the sneer that appears on a liberal's face when they hear my accent often enough that I know exactly what they think about me.

Well, I'm a'fixin' to head out.  There's a turkey shoot goin' on down to the feed store, and my pappy wants me to clean his ol' 12-gauge for him.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Great post.  You said what I was thinking better than I could.</p>
<p>Being from Texas, I&#8217;m quite familiar with stereotypes about rural areas (even though I am actually from a large city).  I&#8217;ve seen the sneer that appears on a liberal&#8217;s face when they hear my accent often enough that I know exactly what they think about me.</p>
<p>Well, I&#8217;m a&#8217;fixin&#8217; to head out.  There&#8217;s a turkey shoot goin&#8217; on down to the feed store, and my pappy wants me to clean his ol&#8217; 12-gauge for him.
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		<title>by: eddiejoyal</title>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 12 Apr 2008 22:24:50 +0000</pubDate>
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					<description>This guy is a jackass.edwardo</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>This guy is a jackass.edwardo
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