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		<title>By: Shelbie</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2007/12/23/can-this-story-die-now/comment-page-1/#comment-199891</link>
		<dc:creator>Shelbie</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jan 2008 21:59:55 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>do you think about Martin Luther king Jr how did he die and when did he die that she want how did someperson kill him</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>do you think about Martin Luther king Jr how did he die and when did he die that she want how did someperson kill him</p>
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		<title>By: Anwyn</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2007/12/23/can-this-story-die-now/comment-page-1/#comment-181921</link>
		<dc:creator>Anwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:48:26 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Bob ... chill. I&#039;m not spinning for Romney. If you cared to read anything else on this blog, you&#039;d know I&#039;m supporting Fred Thompson. And my post includes the Phoenix evidence that the &quot;eyewitnesses&quot; are mistaken and also makes the same point you just did, that Romney&#039;s camp must have known about this at the time.

I know exactly what I&#039;m &quot;claiming&quot;--nothing. Originally I said that figurative language would cover 1) the marches having taken place that meant that George Romney &quot;marched with&quot; MLK even if they weren&#039;t physically marching in the same place and 2) Mitt saying he &quot;saw&quot; this even though he wasn&#039;t at either march. Romney himself made the &quot;figurative&quot; claim, not the literal one, and then for the campaign to promote &quot;eyewitnesses&quot; for the literal view is just stupid.

Do me a favor and read every word of my post next time before you comment.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Bob &#8230; chill. I&#8217;m not spinning for Romney. If you cared to read anything else on this blog, you&#8217;d know I&#8217;m supporting Fred Thompson. And my post includes the Phoenix evidence that the &#8220;eyewitnesses&#8221; are mistaken and also makes the same point you just did, that Romney&#8217;s camp must have known about this at the time.</p>
<p>I know exactly what I&#8217;m &#8220;claiming&#8221;&#8211;nothing. Originally I said that figurative language would cover 1) the marches having taken place that meant that George Romney &#8220;marched with&#8221; MLK even if they weren&#8217;t physically marching in the same place and 2) Mitt saying he &#8220;saw&#8221; this even though he wasn&#8217;t at either march. Romney himself made the &#8220;figurative&#8221; claim, not the literal one, and then for the campaign to promote &#8220;eyewitnesses&#8221; for the literal view is just stupid.</p>
<p>Do me a favor and read every word of my post next time before you comment.</p>
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		<title>By: Bob Waters</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2007/12/23/can-this-story-die-now/comment-page-1/#comment-181918</link>
		<dc:creator>Bob Waters</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Dec 2007 20:42:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Nice spin- except that &lt;a&gt;not only have the two &quot;witnesses&quot; been proven to have been mistaken, but it&#039;s become clear that the Romney campaign knew that their claim was untrue when it advanced that claim.&lt;/a&gt; As to the claim that Romney was only &quot;figuratively&quot; claiming to have witnessed an event which never took place, you really need to decide whether you&#039;re claiming the march happened or that Romney himself wasn&#039;t making that claim. Personally, I&#039;m willing to give Romney the benefit of the doubt on the second point, but it does require a deliberate effort of the will.

Now I wonder whether you used the same approach to the loud cries of &quot;Liar!&quot; aimed at Mike Huckabee-who actually had a bachelor&#039;s degree in &lt;i&gt;religion&lt;/i&gt; and was a considerable way toward a Master of Divinity degree when he uttered the only technically inaccurate claim that he had a degree in &lt;i&gt;theology.&lt;/i&gt;</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Nice spin- except that <a>not only have the two &#8220;witnesses&#8221; been proven to have been mistaken, but it&#8217;s become clear that the Romney campaign knew that their claim was untrue when it advanced that claim.</a> As to the claim that Romney was only &#8220;figuratively&#8221; claiming to have witnessed an event which never took place, you really need to decide whether you&#8217;re claiming the march happened or that Romney himself wasn&#8217;t making that claim. Personally, I&#8217;m willing to give Romney the benefit of the doubt on the second point, but it does require a deliberate effort of the will.</p>
<p>Now I wonder whether you used the same approach to the loud cries of &#8220;Liar!&#8221; aimed at Mike Huckabee-who actually had a bachelor&#8217;s degree in <i>religion</i> and was a considerable way toward a Master of Divinity degree when he uttered the only technically inaccurate claim that he had a degree in <i>theology.</i></p>
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		<title>By: docweaselblog</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2007/12/23/can-this-story-die-now/comment-page-1/#comment-178847</link>
		<dc:creator>docweaselblog</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:31:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;The MLK story is merely one small example of Romney&#8217;s basic dishonesty and&#160;perfidy...&lt;/strong&gt;

Bloggers like the lovely Anwyn are bending over backwards to &#8220;forgive&#8221; racist cult member Mitt Romney&#8217;s stupid lie that he watched his father march with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.
I think the reason this story has legs is the pu...</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>The MLK story is merely one small example of Romney&#8217;s basic dishonesty and&nbsp;perfidy&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>Bloggers like the lovely Anwyn are bending over backwards to &#8220;forgive&#8221; racist cult member Mitt Romney&#8217;s stupid lie that he watched his father march with Dr. Martin Luther King Jr. Blvd.<br />
I think the reason this story has legs is the pu&#8230;</p>
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		<title>By: docweasel</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2007/12/23/can-this-story-die-now/comment-page-1/#comment-178843</link>
		<dc:creator>docweasel</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2007 21:26:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I think the reason this story has legs is the public, accurately, has suspicions that Romney is slick, packaged shyster who will say or do anything to get elected. This is just a lie and obfuscation that has resonance, whereas most examples of his mendacity are about arcane policy and issue politics, people can easily understand and relate to a bold faced lie like this. I don&#039;t buy the &quot;see&quot; explanation. Romney is a serial liar and exagerater, panderer and demagogue. Good to see him finally blunder badly enough for the casual political follwer to notice.

Not to mention the hypocrisy and irony about his &quot;civil rights&quot; record, when the cult to which he belongs would not ordain black men for another 15 years after that &#039;63 march, on the grounds that dark skin was a mark of disfavor from God, that blacks and brown peoples could never ascend into heaven, except as &quot;servants&quot; for the &quot;delightsome&quot; (their word) white people.

I find Romney disgusting on many levels, so I applaud his exposure. Secondly, the public usually gets it right about the character of individuals, and rarely sinks someone on a false charge. Like the fact that Algore may have been innocent of claiming to invent the internet or he and Tipper being the inspiration for Love Story, these stories none the less resonated with the general public because they reflected the true nature of his character- a stiff, pompous, preachy and pedantic elitist who always thought he was the smartest guy in the world and was indeed so smart he needed to be president to save us poor stupid common folks from our own stupidity.

Conversely, the public never bought the MSM&#039;s &#039;narrative&#039; that George W. Bush was an intellectually vapid moron, concluding rightly that a former military fighter jet pilot and Ivy League graduate was not a cretin, no matter how many &quot;Bush is Stupid&quot; stories the liberal press cranked out.

Romney is a slick, packaged, dishonest empty suit. If it takes a story like this to take him down, so be it.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I think the reason this story has legs is the public, accurately, has suspicions that Romney is slick, packaged shyster who will say or do anything to get elected. This is just a lie and obfuscation that has resonance, whereas most examples of his mendacity are about arcane policy and issue politics, people can easily understand and relate to a bold faced lie like this. I don&#8217;t buy the &#8220;see&#8221; explanation. Romney is a serial liar and exagerater, panderer and demagogue. Good to see him finally blunder badly enough for the casual political follwer to notice.</p>
<p>Not to mention the hypocrisy and irony about his &#8220;civil rights&#8221; record, when the cult to which he belongs would not ordain black men for another 15 years after that &#8216;63 march, on the grounds that dark skin was a mark of disfavor from God, that blacks and brown peoples could never ascend into heaven, except as &#8220;servants&#8221; for the &#8220;delightsome&#8221; (their word) white people.</p>
<p>I find Romney disgusting on many levels, so I applaud his exposure. Secondly, the public usually gets it right about the character of individuals, and rarely sinks someone on a false charge. Like the fact that Algore may have been innocent of claiming to invent the internet or he and Tipper being the inspiration for Love Story, these stories none the less resonated with the general public because they reflected the true nature of his character- a stiff, pompous, preachy and pedantic elitist who always thought he was the smartest guy in the world and was indeed so smart he needed to be president to save us poor stupid common folks from our own stupidity.</p>
<p>Conversely, the public never bought the MSM&#8217;s &#8216;narrative&#8217; that George W. Bush was an intellectually vapid moron, concluding rightly that a former military fighter jet pilot and Ivy League graduate was not a cretin, no matter how many &#8220;Bush is Stupid&#8221; stories the liberal press cranked out.</p>
<p>Romney is a slick, packaged, dishonest empty suit. If it takes a story like this to take him down, so be it.</p>
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