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	<title>Comments on: Doesn&#8217;t Pass the Obvious Test</title>
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		<title>By: Anwyn</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2007/10/18/doesnt-pass-the-obvious-test/comment-page-1/#comment-139601</link>
		<dc:creator>Anwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 20:08:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am all in favor of not giving animals to people who will abuse them, and I understand that the situations the shelters have seen tend to lead to these rules. But I think a blanket policy of assuming keeping animals outdoors will result in their abuse is rather a lazy way of doing things--i.e. they&#039;re not checking out the family and the situation, they&#039;re making an assumption based on a very lowest common denominator. It&#039;s just sad.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all in favor of not giving animals to people who will abuse them, and I understand that the situations the shelters have seen tend to lead to these rules. But I think a blanket policy of assuming keeping animals outdoors will result in their abuse is rather a lazy way of doing things&#8211;i.e. they&#8217;re not checking out the family and the situation, they&#8217;re making an assumption based on a very lowest common denominator. It&#8217;s just sad.</p>
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		<title>By: Beth</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2007/10/18/doesnt-pass-the-obvious-test/comment-page-1/#comment-139436</link>
		<dc:creator>Beth</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 25 Oct 2007 13:34:59 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I, personally, would like to live inside.  I agree with rescues and shelters that have a no outdoors policy.  You have to remember that there is a reason why those policies are in place.  I foster for a boxer rescue in Wisconsin.  In the past years we have rescued over 50 dogs that have been left outside, with little to no shelter, little food and water.  Outside dogs are often not properly socialized.

While there are a few people that take excellent care of the outside dogs, there are even more that dont.  I also feel that leaving just one dog outside by themselves, is cruel.  Dogs crave attention and affection, they are pack animals...they want to be with there pack (humans/kids/other animals, etc.)

I agree that dogs should have plenty of access to the outdoors and be allowed to run and play...but either in a fenced area or on a long time.  Too many things can go wrong too fast.

Just my two cents.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I, personally, would like to live inside.  I agree with rescues and shelters that have a no outdoors policy.  You have to remember that there is a reason why those policies are in place.  I foster for a boxer rescue in Wisconsin.  In the past years we have rescued over 50 dogs that have been left outside, with little to no shelter, little food and water.  Outside dogs are often not properly socialized.</p>
<p>While there are a few people that take excellent care of the outside dogs, there are even more that dont.  I also feel that leaving just one dog outside by themselves, is cruel.  Dogs crave attention and affection, they are pack animals&#8230;they want to be with there pack (humans/kids/other animals, etc.)</p>
<p>I agree that dogs should have plenty of access to the outdoors and be allowed to run and play&#8230;but either in a fenced area or on a long time.  Too many things can go wrong too fast.</p>
<p>Just my two cents.</p>
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		<title>By: Anne</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2007/10/18/doesnt-pass-the-obvious-test/comment-page-1/#comment-138972</link>
		<dc:creator>Anne</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2007 22:24:03 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>More on the animal police (with a link to you) here: http://lifepundit.typepad.com/smellshorsey/2007/10/animal-police.html</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>More on the animal police (with a link to you) here: <a href="http://lifepundit.typepad.com/smellshorsey/2007/10/animal-police.html" rel="nofollow">http://lifepundit.typepad.com/smellshorsey/2007/10/animal-police.html</a></p>
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		<title>By: Anwyn</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2007/10/18/doesnt-pass-the-obvious-test/comment-page-1/#comment-134033</link>
		<dc:creator>Anwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:23:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Her cat, her call.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Her cat, her call.</p>
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		<title>By: nk</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2007/10/18/doesnt-pass-the-obvious-test/comment-page-1/#comment-134026</link>
		<dc:creator>nk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:20:30 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Well ... Anne may be a little bit overwrought.  I don&#039;t know that you can traumatize a cat with anything less than a baseball bat.  They&#039;re conscienceless little monsters. ;)</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Well &#8230; Anne may be a little bit overwrought.  I don&#8217;t know that you can traumatize a cat with anything less than a baseball bat.  They&#8217;re conscienceless little monsters. ;)</p>
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		<title>By: Anwyn</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2007/10/18/doesnt-pass-the-obvious-test/comment-page-1/#comment-134011</link>
		<dc:creator>Anwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 22:03:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Gotcha. Without knowing more about the family in question I couldn&#039;t begin to opine on that. Ellen broke her contract and then expected to strong-arm the shelter people, which I don&#039;t approve of at all. As to whether the dog would be better off with the hairdresser&#039;s family or not, I have no idea. But I got a feeling dogs would be better off at Anne&#039;s (Life Pundit) than in the shelter.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Gotcha. Without knowing more about the family in question I couldn&#8217;t begin to opine on that. Ellen broke her contract and then expected to strong-arm the shelter people, which I don&#8217;t approve of at all. As to whether the dog would be better off with the hairdresser&#8217;s family or not, I have no idea. But I got a feeling dogs would be better off at Anne&#8217;s (Life Pundit) than in the shelter.</p>
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		<title>By: nk</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2007/10/18/doesnt-pass-the-obvious-test/comment-page-1/#comment-134008</link>
		<dc:creator>nk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:59:43 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sorry.  I was responding more the link&#039;s defense of Degeneres.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sorry.  I was responding more the link&#8217;s defense of Degeneres.</p>
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		<title>By: Anwyn</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2007/10/18/doesnt-pass-the-obvious-test/comment-page-1/#comment-134004</link>
		<dc:creator>Anwyn</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:55:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>... which has nothing to do with the argument I just made.

I am not suggesting the shelter let whoever wants a pet take one. I am saying that &quot;you&#039;ll keep it outside&quot; is not a good reason to reject somebody as a pet owner.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>&#8230; which has nothing to do with the argument I just made.</p>
<p>I am not suggesting the shelter let whoever wants a pet take one. I am saying that &#8220;you&#8217;ll keep it outside&#8221; is not a good reason to reject somebody as a pet owner.</p>
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		<title>By: nk</title>
		<link>http://www.anwyn.com/2007/10/18/doesnt-pass-the-obvious-test/comment-page-1/#comment-133994</link>
		<dc:creator>nk</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 18 Oct 2007 21:37:25 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>There is a reason the animal shelter has a dog in the first place, Anwyn.  Possibly because someone treated it like a toy that he got tired of and passed on to the next kid?</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>There is a reason the animal shelter has a dog in the first place, Anwyn.  Possibly because someone treated it like a toy that he got tired of and passed on to the next kid?</p>
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